Legislature(2019 - 2020)CAPITOL 17

02/25/2020 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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+= HB 151 ELECTRIC RELIABILITY ORGANIZATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 151(ENE) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
*+ HB 37 EXEMPTION: CONTRACTORS, ELECTRICAL ADMIN. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
           HB 151-ELECTRIC RELIABILITY ORGANIZATIONS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:30:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS  announced that  the final  order of business  would                                                              
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 151,  "An Act  relating to  the regulation  of                                                              
electric  utilities and  electric  reliability organizations;  and                                                              
providing  for  an  effective  date."     [Before  the  committee,                                                              
adopted as a  working draft during the House  Special Committee on                                                              
Energy meeting on  2/20/20, was the proposed  committee substitute                                                              
(CS) for  HB 151,  Version 31-LS0870\E,  Klein, 2/19/20  ("Version                                                              
E").]                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:31:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ moved  to adopt  the proposed  committee                                                              
substitute (CS)  for HB 151, Version 31-LS0870\G,  Klein, 2/24/20,                                                              
("Version G") as the working draft.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:31:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT objected for discussion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:32:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOE G.  HARDENBROOK, Staff,  Representative Grier Hopkins,  Alaska                                                              
State Legislature, on  behalf of the sponsor of HB  151, the House                                                              
Special Committee  on Energy,  chaired by Representative  Hopkins,                                                              
reported  that  the  Senate  Special  Committee  on  the  Railbelt                                                              
Electric  System had  adopted this  same  committee substitute  as                                                              
well  as  the  attached  intent  language  and  had  advanced  its                                                              
proposed bill  to the  Senate Finance Committee.   He  shared that                                                              
Municipal  Light  and  Power  (ML&P)   had  relayed  its  concerns                                                              
detailing  the  impact of  the  legislation  on the  Bradley  Lake                                                              
Project,  both the  dam and  transmission lines.   Although  these                                                              
were part of  the Railbelt Electric system, they  were exempted by                                                              
statute  from RCA oversight.   He  stated that  the proposed  bill                                                              
was not  an attempt to circumvent  the statutes to  exempt Bradley                                                              
Lake from RCA  regulation; however, the legislature  intended that                                                              
all  the  power  suppliers  on the  Railbelt  be  subject  to  the                                                              
reliability   standards  adopted   by   an  electric   reliability                                                              
organization  (ERO).   When the  Bradley  Lake agreements  expire,                                                              
the project and  its auxiliary infrastructure shall  be subject to                                                              
the  terms of  the  proposed legislation.    He acknowledged  that                                                              
there  was active  litigation  regarding this  issue.   He  stated                                                              
that  the committee  substitute and  the intent  language were  an                                                              
attempt  by the  Alaska  State Legislature  to  "stay  out of  the                                                              
ongoing judicial  matters  and state the  legislature's aims  once                                                              
the matter  is settled."   He shared that  the ML&P  had confirmed                                                              
that  the  intent  statement  and  the  bill  changes  "adequately                                                              
addressed their concerns."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:33:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARDENBROOK paraphrased a written statement [included in                                                                    
members' packets] showing the changes proposed under Version G,                                                                 
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 3:     Under  the  "Reliability  Standards"                                                                   
     section     amends  the  section  to  read  "All  users,                                                                   
     owners  and  operators  of  an  interconnected  electric                                                                   
     transmission  network  served  by an  ERO,  including  a                                                                   
     user,  owner  or  operator  that is  exempt  from  other                                                                   
     regulation  under AS 42.05.711  or another provision  of                                                                   
     this chapter,  shall comply  with reliability  standards                                                                   
     contained   in  a  tariff   that  is  approved   by  the                                                                   
     commission."                                                                                                               
     Page 8, line 20:    inserts   the  words  "including   a                                                                   
     public  utility that  is  exempt from  other  regulation                                                                   
     under  AS   42.05.711  or  another  provision   of  this                                                                   
     chapter." Following the word "utility."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     These changes  were recommended by Legislative  Legal to                                                                   
     better  reflect   the  intent  of  the   legislation  to                                                                   
     require all  interconnected utilities on the  Railbelt                                                                     
     and the  providers of power,  including but  not limited                                                                   
     to  the  AEA Bradley  Lake  project    comply  with  the                                                                   
     reliability  standards  adopted  by  a  future  Electric                                                                   
     Reliability Organization.                                                                                                  
     This   is   further   spelled  out   in   the   attached                                                                   
     Legislative Intent Language.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:35:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARDENBROOK paraphrased the Intent Statement for Version G                                                                  
[included in members' packets], which read as follows [original                                                                 
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  the  intent of  the  Thirty-First  Alaska  State                                                                   
     Legislature  that under HB  151, reliability  standards,                                                                   
     electric    reliability   organization   (ERO)    tariff                                                                   
     standards,  planning  terms,  and  project  pre-approval                                                                   
     requirements  will ultimately  apply  across the  entire                                                                   
     interconnected  Railbelt electric energy  network. Broad                                                                   
     application   is  necessary   to  achieve  the   desired                                                                   
     efficiencies  and reliability  for  Alaskans within  the                                                                   
     Railbelt. HB  151 does not  in any way affect  or change                                                                   
     the  existing  relationship  between  the  RCA  and  the                                                                   
     Bradley   Lake   project  agreements,   contracts,   and                                                                   
     amendments   exempt  under   AS  42.05.431(c).  It   is,                                                                   
     however,  the intent  of  the Alaska  State  Legislature                                                                   
     that after  the Bradley Lake  project debt is  satisfied                                                                   
     and  the   AS  42.05.431(c)  exemption   expires,  those                                                                   
     agreements, contracts,  and amendments shall  be subject                                                                   
     to  HB  151. Should  Bradley  Lake  project  agreements,                                                                   
     contracts,  and amendments  receive  a future  extension                                                                   
     of  the  AS 42.05.431(c)  exemptions,  the  Thirty-First                                                                   
     Alaska  State  Legislature  urges consideration  of  the                                                                   
     relationship   between  Bradley   Lake  and   associated                                                                   
     infrastructure and  projects, the Railbelt  network, and                                                                   
     the  electric reliability  organization, and  emphasizes                                                                   
     the  intent   to  subject  all  interconnected   network                                                                   
     users,   owners,  or   operators   to  the   reliability                                                                   
     standards,   an   electric    reliability   organization                                                                   
     tariff,     planning,    and    project     pre-approval                                                                   
     requirements.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:37:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT  removed his  objection  to  the motion  to                                                              
adopt the proposed  committee substitute (CS) for  HB 151, Version                                                              
31-LS0870\G, Klein,  2/24/20, as the  working draft.   There being                                                              
no further objection, Version G was before the committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:37:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS  moved on to public  testimony on HB 151  [which had                                                              
been  left  open  from  the  House  Special  Committee  on  Energy                                                              
meeting on  2/20/20].   After ascertaining that  there was  no one                                                              
who wished to testify, he closed public testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:38:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PRAX  said  that   there  were  four   generating                                                              
facilities  in Fairbanks:   the  University of  Alaska; Doyon  for                                                              
Fort Wainwright;  Eielson [Air Force  Base], and Alyeska  for Pump                                                              
Station  9, and asked  if these  facilities had  been involved  in                                                              
this discussion.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:38:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARDENBROOK offered  his understanding  that, although  these                                                              
entities  did not  provide power  into the  greater network,  they                                                              
had  been part  of  the  discussion,  this legislation  would  not                                                              
impact   their  operations   other   than  to   comply  with   the                                                              
reliability standards.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:39:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ANTONY  SCOTT,  Commissioner,  Regulatory   Commission  of  Alaska                                                              
(RCA), Department  of Commerce, Community &  Economic Development,                                                              
relayed  that   the  intent   of  the   proposed  bill   was  that                                                              
interconnection  within  the overall  system  was  subject to  the                                                              
reliability standards  but beyond that  "there's not much  to talk                                                              
about."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:40:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked whether the four  generating facilities                                                              
had been  contacted, noting  that they were  all connected  to the                                                              
grid.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:40:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JULIE  ESTEY, Director  of  External Affairs,  Matanuska  Electric                                                              
Association  (MEA), in  response to  Chair Hopkins,  said that  an                                                              
invitation  had been  extended to  those four  power producers  to                                                              
join in the conversation,  and that several had  applied to become                                                              
part of  the implementation  committee.  She  added that  they had                                                              
also  offered  substantial   input  which  had  been   taken  into                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:41:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARDENBROOK  added that for  more than a  year the RCA  had an                                                              
ongoing  process  for  public  comment   and  had  also  solicited                                                              
comments  from  independent  power  producers,  shareholders,  and                                                              
consumers across the Railbelt.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:42:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT asked  when the Bradley  Lake project  debt                                                              
was due to be paid off.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:42:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARDENBROOK  replied that  the  first bond  indebtedness  was                                                              
scheduled to  be paid off  in July 2021.   He explained  that part                                                              
of the  conflict and  discussion was related  to the  Battle Creek                                                              
expansion proposed  for the Bradley Lake project.   He offered his                                                              
belief that the  litigation was involved with when  the additional                                                              
debt  would be  retired  and, consequently,  when  there would  be                                                              
interaction  with the statutes  that govern  the exemption  of the                                                              
project  from RCA  regulation.   He  pointed out  that the  intent                                                              
language for  the committee substitute  stated that the  intent of                                                              
the  legislature   was  for  the  statutes  governing   the  RCA's                                                              
participation  in the  Bradley Lake  project  to remain  unchanged                                                              
and  that the  process  would play  out before  the  terms of  the                                                              
proposed bill were applied to the Bradley Lake project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PRUITT   shared    his   understanding   for   an                                                              
expectation  that  the  court had  determined  that  the  proposed                                                              
legislation would  be in effect  based on  the final date  for the                                                              
bond indebtedness.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARDENBROOK  expressed agreement,  and referred to  the second                                                              
paragraph of the intent language, which read:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     the intent  of the Alaska  State Legislature  that after                                                                   
     the Bradley  Lake project debt  is satisfied and  the AS                                                                   
     42.05.431(c)   exemption  expires,   those   agreements,                                                                   
     contracts, and amendments shall be subject to HB 151.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:44:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ moved  to report  CSHB 151, Version  31-                                                              
LS0870\G,  Klein,  2/24/20,  out   of  committee  with  individual                                                              
recommendations   and  zero   fiscal  notes.     There  being   no                                                              
objection,  CSHB  151(ENE)  was   moved  from  the  House  Special                                                              
Committee on Energy.                                                                                                            

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HB 37 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 37
HB 37 - Support Letter Alaska Satellite Internet 4.11.17.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 37
HB 37- Committee Hearing Request 02.21.2020.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 37
HB 37 - Support Letter Craig Mapes 4.11.17.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 37
HB 37 Support Letter Chena Holdings Inc 4.10.17.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 37
HB 37 Support Letter.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 37
HB37 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 37
2020-02-24 - HB 151 version G.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HRES 3/6/2020 1:00:00 PM
HB 151
2020-02-24 - HB 151 Intent Language.pdf HENE 2/25/2020 10:15:00 AM
HB 151